How can 20,000 men take a nation of 5 Million. There should be at least 1.5 Million men of age who can fight. If you think about it, the Georgian outnumbered their invaders 75 to 1 and even with sticks and stones, they could have repelled this attack. But the Georgians had American training and weapons? When you live in a democratic nation, the citizens have to take on more responsiblity for their country. JFK said “Ask not what your country can do for me, but what can you can do for your country”

What I see in Estonia is a deer in the headlights attitude towards such responsibility by a majority of the men. There is a correlation between the lack of company leadership and lack of men in the military. Estonia has to create a culture where men are happy to serve and risk their life for nation. They should not be allowed in jobs or university till they fulfill their basic service. The ones who do extended service or combat tours should get preferential treatment. This will create a new class of leaders who have integrity, balls and a sense of people. Estonians need to learn from Georgia, the world admires those who stand up for themselves – first. The Georgians just went crying without a fight. The Afghans fought the USSR fiercely and Charlie Wilson and many rich Americans came to their side and they beat back the USSR.

They didnt even have shoes, nor any of this American training. Mart, when you get elected, make manhood among the Estonians males part of the agenda, because now they are just a bunch of boys without a clue. The Russians will not mess with a country, even small one, who has a committed male population. Russias military is in shambles and very fragile with a Chinese spector in the background to contend with.

Don’t count on the Americans, there is no oil here, but do make these boys into men and you can stand up against russia. Estonia has around 250,000 capable men, which on the defense with local knowledge will force the russians to attack with 750,000 (which would exhaust them and leave their flanks open and be very costly. Even if Estonia would lose such a battle, Russia would lose the war as they would be exahuasted and bankrupt and left wide open for a Chinese attack on the rear flanks.

Estonia needs to get some balls and get its own ideas, be realistic about its issues, try some diplomacy with Russia first but in the mean time, get this nation full of pretty boys to be men. America owes Europe nothing, in fact Europe owes America. They beat the Germans twice and gave the marshall plan. Start taking ownership and stop whining to the west. David can beat Goliath, but then what would a nation full of athiests know (thats another topic)

I don’t have a stake in the ongoing family feuds that have been going on for decades in the Caucasus region. What I can do is promote freedom and free market ideas. Those are ideas that would allow Ossetians, Abkhaz, and Georgians to live in peace and harmony.

Incidentally, the man most responsible for Estonia’s misery was not Russian. Stalin’s father was Ossetian. His mother was Georgian. Not surprisingly, Stalin was most brutal toward the other people of that region, mainly Chechens and Ingush.

Russia is still a dying, rotting corpse of a nation. They have more abortions than births. About 700,000 people leave Russia each year. They realize that the Russian ship is slowly sinking. They get off and find another boat. The Russian-born American Ayn Rand would say that Atlas is definitely shrugging.

What can the good people of Estonia and other nations do to protect themselves? Get guns and learn to protect yourself. This is the reason why nobody messes with the Swiss. When Stalin sent 80,000 troops into Estonia, those 80,000 would have all been dead if every Estonian had been armed. When you have a gun in your house, you don’t fear the knock on the door in the middle of the night. Every Estonian would be a Forest Brother.

Peace, liberty, and justice to you, Mister Laar.

A dilema. . .

An horrific act if accurate. But im guessing this was hearsay that is being reported and wasnt witnessed by the postimees reporter. The cleansing acts of the Ossetians and russians in the enclaves on ethnic Georgians is massive and widley reported, not just an individual incident.

Im not saying that during the short war there weren’t similar acts by Georgians even if this one isnt true but the issue at hand is much bigger than this.

Russians dont know the meaning of peacekeeping, their prejudice against Geogians is huge as I witnessed in Moscow between 93 and 95, their planning is obvious, their use of blantant and ludicrous propoganda is massive, especially on their own people. This aside I dont think anyone can claim peecekeeping right to a war they started, which is the case no matter how you slice it.

The Russians are there to enforce their own political agenda, its so blantant that i doubt they would even bother to call it peecekeeping if they didnt know that it would have a postive effect for their propoganda.

Not a peacekeeping one? This is from Estonian newspaper:

Samuti sõitsid ema ja isa oma kolme lapsega Põhja-Osseetia poole. Neile tulid vastu grusiinide tankid ja blokeerisid tee. Perekond ei saanud liikuda ei edasi ega tagasi ning üks Gruusia tank lihtsalt sõitis perekonnast üle.

http://www.postimees.ee/?id=30657

In short – Ossetian family – father, mother and 3 kids – were just locked on a road in their car by Georgian forces and simply pankacked by Georgian tank.

Take a note – this is not from “russian propagada” newspaper, this is from Postimees, Estonian newspaper on Estonian language. How many samples do you need, Trevor?

Clearly being hear you are not taking your own advise, or maybe you came here with an intent to flame this blog regardless of Mart’s Opinion. I think you will find that in this case it was the US who fell in line with the Baltics and Poland. May I suggest you get your own blog, Im sure there will be lots of Nashi (Putin Youth – clearly your target demographic)) members wishing to use your views to feed thier anti western emotional deliquency.

Peter

It can be difficult to defend action in serbia and not in Ossetia, on the surface they are similar but no one planned to bomb serbia like russia planned and provoked the georgian conflict. The conflict in Kosovo was much more significant than than in Geogia and when a 3rd party did intervien it did so with much wider approval than Russia did.

Russia’s campaign in Georgia is not a peecekeeping one, it is a political move with mulitple motives. NATO’s action in serbia was carried out after multiple countries debated the issues. A small consideration maybe if you’re a Serb, but it was more than Russia even thought about showing Georgia. I say this as a once resident of Belgrade with several Serb friends. My bias is non existant.